Are Doctors Withdrawing Enough for Retirement OR Too Much?

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By Rick Kahler MS CFP® ChFC CCIM

One of the biggest adjustments for doctors, and all medical professionals, when they retire is making the switch from saving to spending. For years and years, they’ve been putting money away for the future. It’s hard to accept that it’s time to start taking that money out because “the future” has arrived.

How Much – The Big Question

Financial planners can help retired clients make this transition more comfortably by helping them decide on a reasonable withdrawal rate to answer the crucial question, “How much can I take out of my portfolio every year?” That rate needs to balance the need to have enough money to live comfortably and the need to make sure there is enough money for the rest of the clients’ lives.

Pessimism Rules

This is one area of financial planning where pessimism is a virtue. If an advisor claims you can withdraw eight or ten percent, or even more, that’s a red flag that you’re getting bad financial advice. For most people, rates that high are simply not sustainable. A few planners are comfortable recommending withdrawal rates of five or six percent. The more standard rate is four percent. Conservative planners, me among them, tend to recommend three percent.

The Four Percent Anchor

Over my years as a financial planner, however, I’ve come to realize the futility of anchoring on a set withdrawal rate. This is a number that needs to be established based on each client’s needs and circumstances. Because so many variables affect safe withdrawal rates, planners need to keep up on the latest research and continually refine their thinking in this area.

Every time we change the investment mix in clients’ portfolios, it changes the standard deviations, which in turn affect withdrawal rates. For example, at Kahler Financial Group we historically have used a cost-of-living estimate for Social Security of 3%. This was even with our long-term projected increase for the Consumer Price Index (CPI). With some of the current turmoil and lack of confidence that Congress will put Social Security on a firm footing without some type of crisis, we have lowered our COLA expectations to 1% under the CPI, or 2%. Of course, this affects the withdrawal rate we recommend to clients.

The Frugal Types

Most financial planners have some clients who withdraw significantly less than they could. These frugal types are extremely unlikely to run out of money before the end of their lives. They will almost certainly “leave some money on the table.” This is fine if they want to leave money to their heirs. The possible downside is that they could have used some of that money to live more comfortably during their retirement years.

The Spendthrift Types

At the other extreme are those who, for various reasons, take out the maximum that the planner recommends or even more. The higher the withdrawal rate, the lower the probability that they will have enough money to last as long as they live. Only the clients themselves can decide whether their comfort level is at a 99% chance of having enough and even leaving money on the table, a 95% chance, or even down to a 60% or 50% probability of having enough.

Assessment

A projected withdrawal rate is just that, a projection. It’s an educated guess. Markets change, economies change, and unplanned events happen in life. All of those circumstances will affect portfolios and withdrawal rates.

And so, what type of medical professional drawdown participant are you?

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9 Responses

  1. Evaluating the Best Retirement Withdrawal Strategies

    Plans that dynamically adjust for changes in both market and longevity beat more traditional methods.

    http://www.financial-planning.com/news/evaluating-the-best-retirement-withdrawal-strategies-2679768-1.html?ET=financialplanning:e8876:2248552a:&st=email&utm_source=editorial&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=fp_alert_071012

    Albert

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  2. What’s Wrong With The 4% Rule

    Albert – This expert says the 4 percent rule often used by financial advisors to determine retirement withdrawals fails because of how it attempts to fund spending.

    http://www.fa-mag.com/news/the-4–rule–static-decisions-in-a-dynamic-world-13055.html

    Any more thoughts?

    Lance

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  3. What’s a safe withdrawal rate in retirement?

    Agreed Lance – For years, the rule-of-thumb answer has been 4 percent, adjusted annually for inflation.

    http://wealthmanagement.com/retirement-planning/what-s-safe-withdrawal-rate-retirement?NL=WM-08&Issue=WM-08_20130208_WM-08_668&YM_RID=marcinkoadvisors%40msn.com&YM_MID=1370828&sfvc4enews=42

    But, a growing number of financial planning experts are indeed re-thinking that number.

    Clark

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  4. Is the retirement 4% rule wrong?

    Should we withdrawal more; and invest more aggressively?

    http://www.fa-mag.com/news/4–failure-15284.html

    Dimitri

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  5. The Severe Limits Of The 4% Rule

    The well-known rule doesn’t offer enough flexibility for most clients, says financial advisor Dan Moisand CFP.

    http://www.fa-mag.com/news/4–limits-15800.html

    Dan contributed to our book: Financial Planning Handbook for Physicians and Advisors.

    Hope R. Hetico RN MHA

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  6. The Impact Of Taxes On The Safe Withdrawal Rate

    Hope and Rick – While the first safe withdrawal rate research originated nearly 20 years ago, it was simply based on an analysis of the sustainable cash flows that could be drawn from a portfolio over a 30-year time horizon based on various historical scenarios, ignoring the impact of fees and taxes.

    http://www.kitces.com/blog/the-impact-of-taxes-on-the-safe-withdrawal-rate/

    So, enjoy this related article by Mike Kitces MSFS, MTAX, CFP®, CLU, ChFC, RHU, REBC, CASL

    Of course, in the real world clients must bear the cost and impact of both, which reduce not only the amount of growth that the portfolio enjoys over time, but also the level of sustainable cash flows.

    Corbin

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  7. Four ways to get your retirement number

    Corbin – There are many paths to retirement, and which path you take hinges on many factors.

    http://money.msn.com/retirement/4-ways-to-get-your-retirement-number

    Make sure you reach your golden years with a financial plan.

    Lacey

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  8. On the Four Percent Rule

    The problem with this rule of thumb is that a large stock market event near the beginning of your retirement can wipe out a lot of value.

    So, if you withdraw at a rate of 4 percent during such a time, you could easily dip into your capital, lowering your returns overall, and resulting in the possibility that you will run out of money before you run out of retirement years.

    Be careful.

    Dr. Rudiger

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  9. The 4% rule, 20 years later

    Does the 4% retirement spending guideline still make sense?

    http://vanguardblog.com/2014/11/07/the-4-spending-rule-20-years-later/

    Blogger Maria Bruno, from Vanguard, offers some considerations.

    Nancy

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